Curse

aron searle · May 03, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

For the type of game a good story is not necassary, but how much better would it be with a story with as much quality as planescape.

One of the problems i had was the story failed to drag me in. It was a chore to watch cini's and read text, rather than an enjoyable part of the game. Maybe this is partly down to the fact that unlick standard RPG,s you dont choose what you say, Leaving you with nothing to do but watch, and when the cinis are so badly done, thats not really immersive enough.

Kattox1 · May 03, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

You KINDA got the whole storyline wrong in that post of yours BigTru.

First of all he killed the Emperor and it is NEVER explained why he actually did it.

Second he was good warrior and using his -evil powers of doom- (tm) he absorbed the Emperor's SOUL and since the Emperor is all high and mighty he kinda started getting infused with serious magical energy which when he died cause the death scream that turned the forest + sea to jade. (As a side note you got the Tyrian destruction thingys wrong: The Vizier sunk the continent accidentally while trying to destroy the Charr using some uber scrolls in the catacombs of Orr. The Tomb of primeval kings has nought to do with it.)

Third. His death cry did NOT make the plague. He became an envoy at his death meaning he is meant to be taking spirits to the mists after death. But being all evil dude filled with hate that he is and using his envoy powers he is trying to still destroy all etc. If you listen to the other envoys during the cutscene where he kills you all off after vizunah square they say that whenever his spirit passes by someone they become infected with the plague.

Oh and finally the voice acting was bad, I admit that, but you cant just start mouthing off a game that has only had a single YEAR of development. Think about that. Most games take MUUUUCCCCHHHH longer unless they are disney movie spawn style.

I LOVE Factions and the storyline is MUCH better thought out than the first games one which I also loved.

NinjaKai · May 03, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Kattox1

First of all he killed the Emperor and it is NEVER explained why he actually did it.

In flash backs of Shiro's past during certain mission cinematics an old lady oracle predicts the Emporer fears his power and would kill him at the harvest festival thing. So it was either Shiro or the Emporer, it was being betrayed the triggered the evil streak.

BigTru · May 03, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Kattox1

First of all he killed the Emperor and it is NEVER explained why he actually did it.

It is. Some random fortune teller told him to do it.

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Originally Posted by Kattox1

(As a side note you got the Tyrian destruction thingys wrong: The Vizier sunk the continent accidentally while trying to destroy the Charr using some uber scrolls in the catacombs of Orr. The Tomb of primeval kings has nought to do with it.)

I never said it did. The Vizier unraveled a forbiden ancient scroll of gods underneath the capital or Orr. He used it to stop the Char, but sunk the continent in the process.

NinjaKai · May 03, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by BigTru

It is. Some random fortune teller told him to do it.

She said it was either Shiro or the Emporer. She never actually told him to kill the Emporer,

FireKingX · May 03, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

You can't be serious?

It's better than going from 1 story to another without making sense(except maybe the final bit) of prophecies.

Factions has an ACTUAL story.

And voice acting has nothing to do with the story.

NinjaKai · May 03, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by FireKingX

You can't be serious?

It's better than going from 1 story to another without making sense(except maybe the final bit) of prophecies.

Factions has an ACTUAL story.

And voice acting has nothing to do with the story.

Agreed. Though you should see some of the anime forums. Bitch fest. XD

BigTru · May 03, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Voice acting has to do with the presentation of the story. Believe it or not, the actual story is not nearly as important as presentation.

Mithie · May 03, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

The PvE is challenging and fun. The PvP is probably the most robust in any MMO game I've ever played. The visuals are vibrant and beautiful.

Now why, oh why can't Anet hire a half decent storyboard writer instead of handing the plot off to some 7 year old?

Tuoba Hturt Eht · May 03, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Well, at least the plot is easier to follow this time.

Kakumei · May 03, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by BigTru

Believe it or not, the actual story is not nearly as important as presentation.

In the eyes of twelve-year-olds, sure.

BigTru · May 03, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

In the eyes of twelve-year-olds, sure.

No. My professor had us take a poll of which is more important in a movie/book: presentation or story. Ofcoarse "story" won. However, the our professor soon made it quite apperant that presentation is much, much more important.

Storys are like a joke. Presentation is the key. If the story is presented in a convoluted way or too linear, than it will not be as enjoyable as a shotty story presented in a more stylish form.

However, that's irrelevant, as both the "story" and presentation in this game are mediocre, at the very best.

Beat_Go_Stick · May 03, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by BigTru

No. My professor had us take a poll of which is more important in a movie/book: presentation or story. Ofcoarse "story" won. However, the our professor soon made it quite apperant that presentation is much, much more important.

Storys are like a joke. Presentation is the key. If the story is presented in a convoluted way or too linear, than it will not be as enjoyable as a shotty story presented in a more stylish form.

However, that's irrelevant, as both the "story" and presentation in this game are mediocre, at the very best.

Presenting crappy stories on a platter of glittering platinum is like Star Trek: DS9. Star Trek rocks but that was too stupid to watch. I don't know what your professor told you but presentation is only everything if the story or joke behind it is valid.

If I ask you "What do you call a Lima Bean?", you say "What?", and then I say, "A LIMA BEAN!!!" while fire shoots out of my ass, my eyebrows bloom into Daisies, and an army or Pygmy Marmosets springs from my trenchcoat and dances the Funky Chicken, it still doesn't change the fact that that joke behind it sucked!

Meanwhile, if I tell you:
"A bear and a rabbit are taking a dump in the woods.
The bear turns to the rabbit and asks, 'Hey rabbit, do you have a problem with shit sticking to your fur?'
'No.' says the rabbit.
So the bear wipes his ass with the rabbit.

That can be funny even in text if you haven't heard it before. The presentation only becomes more important than the content behind it is that presentation IS (or becomes) the content. Half Life 2 was a perfect example of this. The plot behind that game was god-awful but it was so beautiful that I didn't really mind too much. The graphics (the presentation) BECAME the only good thing about that game and was therefore more important than the plot. Note that that didn't make it a good game, just a lot more acceptable.

Shusky · May 03, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by fiery

Worst cinematic fight was Shiro vs Vizu or Visu whichever.

OH GOD YES.

I personally rolled around laughing at this one.

And can someone pwease tell Shiro's voice actor not to overdramatize everything? Guy sounds like he could say "my, the weather is fine today" in a tone implying "I burned your house, killed your family and stole your cattle"

Eet GnomeSmasher · May 03, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by NinjaKai

She said it was either Shiro or the Emporer. She never actually told him to kill the Emporer,

Eh? Well what do you think the fortune teller was telling him then? Give the emperor a backrub?

She told Shiro that the Emperor was going to kill him and told him to choose, him or the Emperor. It cant be any more obvious than that. The old lady was telling Shiro to kill the Emperor.

On a side note, I always thought there was some higher force that planned all this. Maybe the fortune teller was part of something to get Shiro to kill the Emperor. Or maybe she was just crazy.

Shusky · May 03, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

The last fortune teller I encountered in GW was hidden in a grain of sand and kept ordering me around for half a game almost having me destroy the world, so I'm going with crazy

SyR1S · May 03, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Guildwars has one of the worst story lines ever. I mean come on so cliche and predictable not to mention just plain boring. And they also need to work on the animations i mean those ingame cinimatics could be done by a 6 year old. I was hoping factions would have a decent storyline but they dont oh well

GunnerMan1 · May 03, 2006, 09:00 PM // 21:00

I did enjoy the sotry. It could have had a bit more to it but its not bad. I do wish lips moved though :P Anyway my complaint is I need to REPLAY it to get other char through just go get the Elite skills etc. Dosen't Anet realise these missions will get incredibly boring by after about the 2nd time playing them for most people?

Chilly Ress · May 03, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by BigTru

No. My professor had us take a poll of which is more important in a movie/book: presentation or story. Ofcoarse "story" won. However, the our professor soon made it quite apperant that presentation is much, much more important.

Storys are like a joke. Presentation is the key. If the story is presented in a convoluted way or too linear, than it will not be as enjoyable as a shotty story presented in a more stylish form.

However, that's irrelevant, as both the "story" and presentation in this game are mediocre, at the very best.

I would very, VERY much like to meet this professor of yours. Is he one of those guys that is doing a job that requires a college degree but he is just some bum that stayed at a Holiday Inn Express?

So, from what you(and your professor) are saying, is that presentation matters more than content?

If this is true, then my report on the origin of teletubbies that looks FABULOUS would beat out a cure for cancer that is presented less than fabulous?

This is a load of bull, I dont know where you people get this crock.

And by the way, to add my personal opinion, I love the stories in both.

One MORE thing, if you actually had a professor, you would know how to spell, unless you ARE 12 years old...

Lint · May 03, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I love this faction story line. I don't know why people hate it.